Complete with ammo suggestions, capability, rifles, and more. You do not pay Chuck Norris doesnt need a bullet. For better accuracy, the barrel features a hybrid muzzle brake that reduces recoil and noise. So make your pick wisely, and then get to shooting, because a cartridge can only be as accurate as the one firing it. Once a wildcat now legitimized, but still not popular. Quantserve sets the mc cookie to anonymously track user behaviour on the website. There reputation is very good with Military, Law enforcement and Industry. This cookie, set by YouTube, registers a unique ID to store data on what videos from YouTube the user has seen. Youtube - Track the views of embedded videos. Learning the skills required for long-range shooting is a painstaking process that takes thousands of rounds down range before beginning to master this skill. Then the 400 yard. A 140 grain bullet comes out screaming at around 3,550 fps and still has 1,200 ft lbs of energy at 900 yards enuff for a Deer assumingRead more , I used to think that home was a city, but a visit to Chicago made my small town look much better. Youre right to some extent, however, the 338 Lapua, 6.5 Creedmoor and the .300 Winchester Magnum have all been adopted by either the U.S. Army, or the U.S. Marine Corps and various Spec-ops groups as sniping rounds at this time, supplanting the 7.62 X 51 NATO or augmenting it. In just handloaded bullets, Berger has now built a new 130 grain VLD that will drill prairie rats to 800 yards all day long. I have many rifle, 6,5 x 57 R 6,5 x 68, 7 x 64 30- 06, 7 RM but the very big satisfaction is shoot. They have been around a long time for a reason. Both make it worthwhile to get up and get going. One reason for the .300 Win. What?! The Savage 110 Tactical is based on a standard Model 110 action dropped into the Savage Accu-Stock. How External Ballistics Influences Bullet Flight, Why You Need a Ballistics Calculator for Long Range Shooting. There is no shortage of amazing cartridges that offer dazzling performance at extended ranges. is the perfect Goldilocks round. doubleclick.net - browser supports cookies. This includes gear reviews, features on technical innovations, stories on shooting techniques and general hunting coverage with the occasional fishing story thrown into the mix. As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases. I regularly look at the Berger chart for stabilization or use the Greenhill formula to have a quick answer for a particular bullet. Shooting in Oregon was to fill the freezer! First deer rifle ever since I was 13 and I keep going back to it (37 now). In recent years the 6.5 Creedmoor has been arguably one of the most popular cartridges on the market. Mag. The jack-of-all-trades long-range caliber. The round, designated A191 (Mk 248 Mod 0), was deemed effective to 1,200 yards, though in reality it was capable well beyond that distance, as was demonstrated by Navy SEAL sniper Chris Kyle who used the round to kill an enemy combatant in Afghanistan at 1,600 yards. Cartridge ergonomics consist of things such as felt recoil and ballistic coefficients that determine how efficiently a bullet will cut through the atmosphere. The long range military rifles on my list would start with the .338 Lapua, .375 Cheytec, .408 Cheytac, the .416 Barrett and finally the .50 Bmg. I have a 2506 killed a deer at 840 yards one shot !! I am sure you like your little gun.Everyone has their own opinions.They are just like assholes,everyone has one. .300 Winchester Magnum is a favorite of hunters worldwide for big game at long range. With the more recent popularity in long-range shooting new shooters are looking to get the best setup to begin their long-range journey. Also, a low-BC bullet fired fast, many take longer to reach a target than a higher BC bullet, fired slow. From as early as I can remember I have always taken interest in hunting and fishing. This cartridge though not breaking speed records offers new long-range shooters the primary benefit of being extremely cost effective. To salvage the project, the Navy switched to 185-grain Lapua FMJs, which went into production in 1990. Rate it below. With an aggressive muzzlebrake, it's possible to spot your own impacts on downrange steel targets. However, you may visit "Cookie Settings" to provide a controlled consent. Thes. Hand loaders will appreciate the powder saving when loading a short action cartridge such as the 7mm-08 instead of a large volume cartridge. I think this is a great blog and love all the dynamics but for most situations I would take my trusty 30.06 and my 1911 .45 Colt or Glock .45. No problem loading for it to shoot 2850+ with 140 gr. The 6.5 PRC joined an ever-expanding field of 6.5mm (.264 in.) Keep in mind, however, that if youre looking to get multiple purposes out of a 6.5 Creedmoor you may find yourself in an uphill battle. Mag. Just my 2 cents plus change. 1 Creedmoor shooter reached 1500yds, but the rest were out after 1200. This is where the division between the 308 and the 7mm-08 are most note-able. Ive been able to produce reloads of this cartridge to shoot in my Remington Model 700 Long Range Rifle that can achieve great results in bullet weights from 150 gr., 165 gr. A cookie set by YouTube to measure bandwidth that determines whether the user gets the new or old player interface. How do we know all five shots went in that hole? Registration on or use of this site constitutes acceptance of our Terms of Service. The belted cartridge can be loaded for velocities up to 3,500 fps with lighter bullets, but the best long-range loads use a heavier bullet with a higher BC and velocities between 2,800 and 3,000 fps. If you handloaded the same heavy bullets used in the 224V and had a custom rifle built with a faster twist rate (1:8), it would either match or slightly beat the 224V. Whenever the military adopts a cartridge, its probably going to do well, whether it is the best for its job or simply good enough. Adding this .30-caliber to the family was a no-brainer and, in fact, wildcatters had done so from nearly the moment the .338 Win. Funny how the 6.5 Creedmoor is in there over the 260 Remington while the Rem goes 100-150fps faster on a bad day. It has to hit the target. Best Options for Long Range Cartridges Seven of the best cartridges for shooting at 1,000 yards, that are also well supported by ammunition and bullet manufactures, are the following:. Ruger Precision Rifle 6.5 Creedmoor 24 M-Lok. But what i will say, the money i spent on my Leopold, i could have purchased 3 more zeiss conquests for, i also own a couple of vortex scopes. The last time a .270 Win. People can talk all they like about shooting old military rifles with mil-surp ammo, most of them have never shot over 300 yards, and never shot a high end, tuned rifle. You may believe youre tough, but trust me, if you fire a hundred or so rounds with a rifle generating more than around 15 foot-pounds of recoil energy during one range session, youre going to feel it, and it will negatively impact your shooting. One cartridge needs to be crowned the most accurate and it just happens to be one youve probably never heard of. Sorry for ur mishap with Nikon I had a 2.5-10-50 prostaff5 Gail Nikon replaced it with no problems once they confirmed the scope wouldnt hold its zero job well done Nikon, Ive never had a problem with nikons warranty on any scope Ive ever sent back a little slower in the process than I would like but again it is what it is nikon has a great rifle scope got monarch Buckmasters old and new several prostaffs all are great deer hunting rifle scopes, Was that the old Buckmasters r them pos Buckmasters 2 Ive got couple of them not real Impressed with them guess ther worth nikons warranty Nikon been good to me wen I had a problem but my only problem with Nikon was with a 2.5-10-50 prostaff5 that wouldnt hold its zero Nikons warranty is great as they say, For hunting the becareful gets in my way Ive had them and sent them back to nikon never shot one r tried to site one I dont like the box reticle I prefer a solid duplex glass but Nikon quality is great except the Buckmasters 2 ther sort of cheap and the glass isnt as good as some other scopes in ther same price range older Simmons rifle scopes r good example Aetec 44mag any new prostaff by nikon is great, I like to hunt and wen I do I want to see only target and my crosshairs nikons BDC is in my way had them got one Buckmasters 3-9-40 on a 22 not real impressed with that type of reticle, Not being a nasty person but I really dont care for nikons bdc had a few buckmasters2 wen they came out had one prostaff5 with bdc really didnt care for it in my hunting scope I prefer just a simple duple,for me the duplex is all I need a good zero on a hunting rifle it shouldnt be very much hold over just aim and shoot deer in the freezer done, I personally dont care for any of nikons bdc reticle guess ther good maybe its just me, Oh yes somebody else kindly recommended another quality scope that I have to find again. The fact is nothing could be further from the truth. While the retained velocity and energy is 1937 fps / 1500 ft-lb and 1656 fps / 1096 ft-lb at 600 and 800 yards. After he passed away I tried out his weapons. During the American SHOT SHOW 2019, I shot this rifle for test at 1000 yards. ), neither of which is conducive to good accuracy. Lighter recoil makes for longer and more enjoyable range sessions. You must adequately define these currently nebulous extra parameters that lead you to make these statements and pass them off as informative. Yup, the .257 beats everybody in speed and long-range accuracy, at least out to 500-600 yards (except the .22 Swift, and it drops off after a couple of hundred yards) . The impact is incredible. Not to mention lugging all the equipment and having spotters. While still a great long-range precision shooting cartridge, it is starting to lose ground to newer and softer shooting cartridges.". we started testing in VIET-NAM, they were great, even at LONG range. But, if you can deal with the recoil issue, this cartridge can deliver an impressive 225-grain bullet at 3,200 fps. Here were looking at the most debated but maybe least critical aspect of shooting farther, and thats the choice of long-range cartridges. Precision ammunition of any type, for any cartridge, is not cheap. Grizman There are many in the long range field way past Book recommendations. I hand load my shells with 105 grains of hodgens retumbo powder with a 180 grain Hornady sst great load for my gun. If this is a discussion on long range rifles rounds and the rifles that shoot them, then the .308 shouldnt be in the discussion. when it comes to long range hunting I have to stick to my 7mm mag custom made bolt action, an extremely flat trajectory and shots at over 1000 yards are very common. I was going to ask about the 7mms as well. why list the 338 lapula my 338-378 weatherby out performs it in fps and energy ? Although it will always be there and ready if the need arises. After reaching out to 1,250 yards on a trip to the amazing High Bar Homestead in Gillette, WY, I am now a firm believer in the .224 Valkyrie. It's new, very little data out about it. Either the .300 winmag, or .338LM are probably going to be your best choice. Its pinpoint accuracy makes it deadly on these animals to 500 yards and more. It's disconcerting to me that this cartridge always gets left out of the conversation. I've shot several five shot 3" groups at 600 yards with mine, but it's less predicable at 1,000 yards. Shepherd Scopes is now run by Salvo Technologies With production in Florida and headquarters in Nebraska. Here's a look at the top seven long-range cartridges to arrive since 2007. You could have put any of the RUMS in this category.So I think it is personal choice and what you can afford. An overall look at the 308 for a leaning cartridge is exceptional. A good example of a rifle that demonstrates the .308s long-range chops is this rifle I built with Shilen a few years back. Intelligent interrogating Intimately satisfies me. Cost, ease of part acquirement, availability, things you can run in an AR platform, or a perceived "coolness" factor? The cookie is used to store the user consent for the cookies in the category "Other. A few years back I took a very nicely built AR-15 to Buck Doyles training facility where a group of us shot out to 1,100 yards on steel targets. Bushnell does have some crap but from the legend and above their pretty solid rifle scopes at descent prices worth checking them out if ur in saving money for a good product hope it helps, Guys&Gals Ive deer hunted all my life and I have several rifle scopes from leupold to to Bushnell and Nikon I have a brand new leupold freedom several nikons its best being a Nikon prostaff5 2-5-10-50 my absolute best rifle scope is a Bushnell Legend Ultra HD 3-9-50 its more clear and durable feeling than any rifle scope I have can anyone explain to me why if Bushnell is supposed to be a Cheap low quality rifle scope why does it win in every bracket against all these other rifle scopes this leupold legend ultra hd 3-9-50 is a veryRead more , Smed missed that you had already posted the Wikipedia article on long range sniper snots. Its ballistic coefficient is specifically intended for long range. It has, perhaps, the widest selection of viable bullet choices, and is a bit more efficient . It out performs the 6.5 Creedmore and the .308. Charged with Reloder 19 and 22 powders, the round performed well at 1,000 yards during the Navys accuracy testing with the extreme spreads of the groups measuring 10.79 and 10.68 inches respectively. And two shots down range ( both right at 250 yds) have put two nice deer in the freezer. Coming in on top, as a heavy hitter in the big league long range department, I am turning to the new Barrett designed bolt action chassis rifles. The bullet will not do any damage near the target. During benchrest competition the targets have a paper backer that is moving placed behind them. (, We noticed that you have previously logged in with your, Check what do you get by creating an account, Bookmark and compare your favorite firearms, 7 Best Long-Range Cartridges: Hit Stuff Really Far Away, While this may not be the first cartridge that comes to mind for long-range shooting, with an appropriate bullet, the compact .223 Remington or 5.56 NATO is, If you choose to shoot long-range with a .223 Remington, I highly suggest shooting longer, heavier bullets with a 1:7 rifle twist. The barrel life of a 300PRC though still relatively new is expected to be around the 2700 rounds before accuracy is diminished. Im not happy. Barrel life can be expected to be around 3000 rounds before accuracy begins to diminish. In reference to the gentleman saying a hunter shouldnt take a long range shot, what he meant was He shouldnt take a long range shot. Registration on or use of this site constitutes acceptance of our Terms of Service. YSC cookie is set by Youtube and is used to track the views of embedded videos on Youtube pages. All the other factors combined still dont add up to that one huge deterrent. Either buying factory ammunition or looking for brass the 308 has a large variety to choose from that nearly all sporting goods stores hold stock. Components for the 7mm-08 are however harder to come by. You can catch them on sale for 399 an under, Im sorry at ther discretions bushnell replaced the legend with a Nitro 3-12-44 not the 2.5-10-44 they had discussed with me says it will be better than the Legend was Im hoping so since I never got to put the legend to a great test with it failing in under 5 yrs luckily nikon is on my other hunting rifles but I do love my browning safari 3006. Pick my caliber and rifle. The .308 Win. Nothing wrong whatsoever with the 7mmRM. Thought the article was great; however, I have found for long range shooting nothing beats my 6.5284 Norma. It is a 6mm bullet in a necked down 6.5cm (Creedmoor, not centimeter) care. The incredible performance of this long-range caliber is the reason why it has been used in building the longest sniper kills in battle, which is at a fascinating 2,707-yard distance. I have a Nikon Buckmaster that failed on the second rage trip. I would like to see how other people have loaded that round for various purposes, The 22-250 has never been considered a long range cartridges because the cartridges have very light bullets and rifles offered have always had slow twist rates. Is the Creedmoor better because of all the advertising? Some of the data that are collected include the number of visitors, their source, and the pages they visit anonymously. I wish there was more talk around 308 since you've established it as the baseline by which all long range cartridges are judged. Mag. YouTube - Store data on what videos from YouTube the user has seen. So, you get much better performance from the 6.5 PRC versus the .300 Win. Mag. I also bought a Remington 700 in 300 winRead more . We already have an account registered for email address I don't know if you're from the east, but that argument is typically made from someone who lives in the east and hunts woods. Good morning America! Ken Whitmore is a husband, father of two, and prior service United States Marine. Born and raised in Alberta. Federal was tapped to produce the ammo in 1992, and so the military had a sniper round that slotted between the .308 Win. is another favorite among the MeatEater crew. Bill Poor recently claimed to hit a target at 5280 yards/4837 meters or 3 miles. Ballistically, it absolutely trounces the .308 Win. But lack of convenience is certainly the Big Kahuna. Out here on Guam, I use a Browning BAR 7mm Magnum and has NEVER let me down 25-06nobody ever talks about it. OK my latest dream is a Weatherby Vanguard in 6.5 300. If your question encompasses strictly deer, and only deer, then .256 Newton. That is Leupolds entry level scope series. Winchester 30-30. Im breaking him down dayRead more , Great article .. For hunting it makes more sense to run with something a bit stouter. caliber cartridges in 2018 when Hornady introduced it after working with George Gardner of GA Precision on the concept. Mag. You'll now receive newsletters of our best articles on techniques, Howa 1500s are popular first long-range guns for a reason-they rock! It has ample killing power for all but the largest of game, it is easy to shoot well, the cartridge is inherently accurate. Now I hunt the high country of my home province for big horn sheep and fish in the tide waters off British Colombia. There's plenty of setups out there where 500 yd shots are simple things. You can go out to extremely long ranges with the .50BMG. I have this Lapua rifle for hunting and depending on where I am, I useRead more . This cookie is set by GDPR Cookie Consent plugin. I do also handload. Ive not done the King of 2 mile thing but if I were younger it would have appealed to me. Cartridge ergonomics is where the 7mm-08 excels over the 308. One needs look no further than how the 6.5 Creedmoor and its kin have fared in precision rifle competitions, winning time and again when the shots are on small targets at 1,000 yards or more. That involves shooting ballistically aero-efficient bullets at moderate velocities with the understanding that they will retain their speed and shoot flatter at long distances while generating mild recoil and good barrel life. Obviously, recoil is going to be more noticeable when comparing most long actions to short actions. Great turrets and repeatability. mag. While I was in Wyoming, I was able to test and evaluate the .224 Valkyrie with a rifle from Palmetto State Armory. ), 1) no anything extra and your Get Our Top Shooting Drills and Zeroing Targets ($47 value - but FREE for a limited time). Right here: ".300 Winchester Magnum is a favorite of hunters around the world for big game at long range. Making a more modest round have some staying power is the key to success, but my task is to select each round based on a number of factors that center around the best of the best long range cartridges, so here is the whole deal in an ammo can. wanting to hunt with it as wells a compete win PRC Im thinking it is all that Ineed and a little more. ELDX and 220 gr. Granted, Ill never hunt moose with it though. Depending on the task at hand, the best long-range cartridge might be a big boomer or a soft-shooting pussycat. Snipers needed to get past 1000 yards, and that meant turning to more cartridge and more bullet to do the deal. Not only did the Paramount likely dethrone the UML as the best long range muzzleloader, but the CVA Paramount was so successful that . The Lapua Center-X is a standard-velocity, lead round-nose, match-grade .22 LR cartridge intended mainly for competition. Bottom line, I agree its in our best interest and the animals' best interest to get as close as we can. Ammo prices are a bit steeper than the previously mentioned cartridges, but the, While I was in Wyoming, I was able to test and evaluate the .224 Valkyrie with a rifle from Palmetto State Armory. The 408 CheyTac has a mixed history of both success and failure, but in the area of pure ballistics, it is a very deadly gunning system. Reloaders take notice don't give up on the .308 yet good things to come. Thanks for all the information. For many, this is a round that you hate to love. That I have done with a .270. They do exactly what they are advertised to do, and I have shot them from every distance out to 1,000 yards in the .300 Winmag, and in the Whelen. Winchester 30-06 Springfield - Expedition Big Game Rounds. He would then fire-form the brass in a barrel dedicated to that process and then run that brass through a die with a .30-caliber mandrel, at which point he turns the case neck for uniformity and trims the brass to the right length. First off, we decided to limit ourselves to the most common deer hunting calibers: .30-06, .308, .300 Winchester Magnum, 6.5 Creedmoor, and .30-30 Winchester. Thanks and am taking a hard look at Burris scopes. Federal 165-grain Fusion Federal Check Price Nosler 180-grain Accubond Hornady American Whitetail 150-grain SP Winchester 180-grain Ballistic Silvertip Barnes 180-grain TTSX These 150-grain Winchester Power Points leaning against the author's custom .30/30 Marlin 336C make for a classy combo.
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